PDA

View Full Version : HD-format-war... over!?


BlackCross
6th January 2008, 17:11
Warner Bros going Blu-Ray exclusive

http://i3.tinypic.com/6jvsnqt.png

Looks like HD format war is finally over, Warner Bros will back only Blu-ray. Sad news for all HD DVD supporters, it is time to throw away your HD DVD :)

Time Warner’s Warner Bros. studio Friday said it would exclusively release high-definition DVDs in Sony Corp’s Blu-ray format, dealing a big blow to Toshiba Corp’s rival HD DVD technology. Warner Bros, Hollywood’s biggest seller of DVDs, representing about 18 to 20% of sales in the United States, was one of the few studios that backed both formats. All sides of the format war had agreed it was confusing to consumers and a stumbling block for a potential multibillion-dollar industry. Total DVD unit sales fell 4.5% in 2007, the first major year-over-year decline since the disc format debuted in 1997, according to Adams Media Research. Sales fell 4.8% to $15.7 billion.

“The window of opportunity for high-definition DVD could be missed if format confusion continues to linger. We believe that exclusively distributing in Blu-ray will further the potential for mass market success and ultimately benefit retailers, producers, and most importantly, consumers,” Warner Bros Chairman and Chief Executive Barry Meyer said in a statement. News Corp’s 20th Century Fox, Walt Disney, and Lionsgate are among studios backing the Blu-ray format. Viacom’s Paramount studios and General Electric’s NBC Universal release movies in HD DVD format.Warner said it would continue releasing in the HD DVD format until the end of May, although those releases would follow the standard DVD and Blu-ray releases.

Source: usatoday

BlackCross
8th January 2008, 16:52
Paramount drops HDDVD. End of format war?

http://www.thebitbag.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/060805_1.jpg

Paramount studios is poised to drop its support of the high-definition DVD (HD DVD) format after Warner Bros studio said it would back the competing Blu-ray format, the Financial Times reported on Tuesday.The loss of support from Paramount, which is owned by Viacom Inc, would likely deal the final blow to the HD DVD format backed by Toshiba Corp and put an end to the format war, the newspaper said on its Web site. Time Warner Inc’s Warner Bros studio on Friday said it would exclusively release high-definition DVDs in Sony Corp’s Blu-ray format, marking a major setback to the HD DVD camp.

Blu-ray discs outsold HD DVD by nearly two-to-one in the United States last year, but HD DVD had secured major allies in August when Paramount Pictures and DreamWorks Animation SKG Inc said they would go exclusively with HD DVD. But Paramount is understood to have a clause in its contract with the HD DVD camp that would allow it to change sides if Warner Bros backed Blu-ray, the Financial Times said, citing people familiar with the situation. However, Paramount spokeswoman denied this news as speculative with “Paramount’s current plan is to continue to support the HD DVD format”.

Source: Forbes, FT, Bloomberg

REDDEVIL
9th January 2008, 04:23
Yey! :moe: *goes to buy his new BD-recorder (400$) and BD Blank Discks (200lei/1 pc.)* XD

BlackCross
9th January 2008, 10:33
U forgot about the writer (~300 bucks).

L.A.
9th January 2008, 12:02
It should be consumer choice; and if that's the way they vote, that's something we'll have to consider," Albert Penello, group marketing manager for Xbox hardware said when asked whether Microsoft would support a Blu-ray DVD accessory in the event that HD-DVD failed.

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssTechMediaTelecomNews/idUSN0851332620080108

BlackCross
11th January 2008, 19:30
Universal switches to Blu-Ray, real end of HDDVD?

Last week, Warner Bros. shook up the next-gen format war with a seemingly impromptu announcement that it would be abandoning Toshiba’s HD DVD high-definition video playback format in favor of Sony’s Blu-ray standard beginning in May. The blow to HD DVD was followed by a vicious left hook, when the Financial Times revealed that fellow HD DVD supporter Paramount may capitalize on an out clause in its exclusivity contract with Toshiba that specifically pertained to Warner Bros.’ defection. Though the Viacom-owned Paramount officially continues to stand by its HD DVD exclusivity decision–as does format supporter Microsoft, despite recent reports that Blu-ray support for the Xbox 360 wasn’t out of the question–Universal Studios would be the sole major-studio standard bearer for the HD DVD format. However, it now appears Universal may be readying the haymaker that will down Toshiba’s video playback standard for the count.

Variety reports that Universal Studios has ended its HD DVD exclusivity deal, though it will continue to only support the format until its current arrangement with Toshiba ends May 31. The report did not indicate whether Universal will exclusively support Sony’s Blu-ray format after that date. Speaking to GameSpot, a Universal Studios representative confirmed that, for the time being, the studio will continue to support HD DVD, though they would not say whether Blu-ray support is also on the agenda. Sony’s Blu-ray high-def video player, which is prominently advertised as one of the primary draws of the PlayStation 3, enjoys the lion’s share of support from major motion picture studios. In addition to Warner Bros., the Walt Disney Company, 20th Century Fox, and Lionsgate all support the format exclusively. New Line Cinema and HBO, both subsidiaries of Time Warner, also reportedly revealed during the 2008 Consumer Electronics Show that they would follow Warner Bros. as Blu-ray exclusive studios.

Source: Gamespot

Shing
12th January 2008, 01:36
Blu-Ray RULEZZzz - (^_)
жалко канеш Panasonic...
вот терь народ станет доганять чё такое PS3 и почему он стока стоит :))))
вощем за голубым лучом будущее))

BlackCross
15th January 2008, 23:09
Toshiba lowers prices in order to save HDDVD

Consumer electronics maker Toshiba Corp said on Monday it is slashing prices of its HD DVD format players by between 40 to 50 percent as major Hollywood studios move to embrace Sony Corp’s Blu-ray format high definition DVDs. Toshiba America Consumer Products said it cut prices of its HD DVD players effective January 13 to boost market adoption of its next-generation DVD players by mainstream consumers after what it said was a successful fourth quarter in unit sales.
http://img.engadget.com/common/images/3060000000047620.JPG?0.3076801946149791
“While price is one of the consideration elements for the early adopter, it is a deal-breaker for the mainstream consumer,” said Toshiba executive Yoshi Uchiyama in a statement. Toshiba’s players will now start as low as $149 going up to $399 for the top-of-range player. The company said it is also stepping up its marketing drive with major initiatives including joint advertising campaigns with studios and extended pricing strategies. Toshiba said it will continue with on-going promotions including five HD DVD titles for free with any of its HD DVD player.
Source: Reuters

BlackCross
15th January 2008, 23:09
Toshiba lowers prices in order to save HDDVD

Consumer electronics maker Toshiba Corp said on Monday it is slashing prices of its HD DVD format players by between 40 to 50 percent as major Hollywood studios move to embrace Sony Corp’s Blu-ray format high definition DVDs. Toshiba America Consumer Products said it cut prices of its HD DVD players effective January 13 to boost market adoption of its next-generation DVD players by mainstream consumers after what it said was a successful fourth quarter in unit sales.

http://img.engadget.com/common/images/3060000000047620.JPG


“While price is one of the consideration elements for the early adopter, it is a deal-breaker for the mainstream consumer,” said Toshiba executive Yoshi Uchiyama in a statement. Toshiba’s players will now start as low as $149 going up to $399 for the top-of-range player. The company said it is also stepping up its marketing drive with major initiatives including joint advertising campaigns with studios and extended pricing strategies. Toshiba said it will continue with on-going promotions including five HD DVD titles for free with any of its HD DVD player.
Source: Reuters

lazifyre
16th January 2008, 17:00
2 Shing
вообще правильно не Blue-Ray a Blu-Ray:chinewyear:
почему?
когда регистрировали название, было конешн blue, но стал blu потому-что им не разрешили ...
хз почему:?:

Shing
18th January 2008, 01:46
сапасипа за обьяснение :)
а то хотел было ужо написать чё-нить в ответ :laughat:

кста - у меня как раз Blu-Ray и написанно x_x ))

lazifyre
18th January 2008, 10:48
было blue
или мне померещилось или ...:petrified:

BlackCross
23rd January 2008, 15:00
Blu-Ray outperforms HD DVD 6 to 1

http://www.cnet.co.uk/i/c/blg/cat/dvdplayers/51_gb_hd_dvd.jpg

Last week, Blu-ray had its best week ever with 85% of the high-def disc market share, according to trade publication Home Media Magazine. Since the beginning of the format war, Blu-ray has been consistently outperforming HD DVD, but never at such a large rate. The second-place format was dealt a big blow a couple weeks ago when Warner Bros announced it was dropping HD DVD support, preventing the format from gaining any momentum during the Consumer Electronics Show.

Additionally, Home Media Magazine reports that the 10 top-selling HD titles last week were all Blu-ray Discs, the first time that not one HD DVD made the list. At the top of the list was Blu-ray’s 3:10 To Yuma, which sold 10 times as many discs as the HD DVD release of The Kingdom. These numbers motivated some fans of HD DVD to start a petition called “Save HD DVD” - it has collected over 13 thousand singatures so far, but I really doubt it can change anything…

Source: TG Daily

BlackCross
29th January 2008, 22:37
HDDVD tries to ressurect with $3M Superbowl ad

http://www.pornexcellence.com/blog/images/hddvd.jpg

During next week’s Super Bowl, viewers will be treated to an HD DVD commercial, but won’t see any mention of the competing Blu-ray format. The ad will feature Toshiba’s three lowest-priced players, the HD-A3, A30, and A35, and is the biggest advertising move for any high-def disc medium to date, reports Home Media Magazine. According to industry reports, the 30-second TV spot is expected to run Toshiba nearly $3 million. It is a crucial move that Toshiba hopes will bring consumers to HD DVD instead of Blu-ray, which has a significant early lead in the format war.
“It has always been our strategy to reach HDTV owners, using advertising on football is just one vehicle,” said Toshiba to Home Media. Within the last part of 2007, an estimated two million people bought an HDTV specifically because of the Super Bowl. A 30-second advertising slot during the game this year is estimated to cost $2.7 million. The Blu-ray Disc Association will not be represented during the huge sporting event because it was not able to create an ad in time, according to the magazine. BDA spokesperson Andy Parsons put down the move by saying, “Running a Super Bowl ad is not likely to convince consumers that HD DVD will win the format war.” And he’s right, this fight is most likely over: hail the Blu-Ray, new king!
Source: PC World, TG Daily

Revolt
30th January 2008, 16:33
Cross dar ce inseamna ca pe un Blu-Ray disk inscrii mai multe joci p/u PS3 ? Ca vad ca are capacitatea de 30Gb.

BlackCross
30th January 2008, 18:47
Cross dar ce inseamna ca pe un Blu-Ray disk inscrii mai multe joci p/u PS3 ? Ca vad ca are capacitatea de 30Gb.
Nu, doar 1 joc. Defapt PS3 citeste jocuri doar de pe BluRay.

Revolt
30th January 2008, 22:24
Nu, doar 1 joc. Defapt PS3 citeste jocuri doar de pe BluRay.

Eu stiu ca PS3 citeste jocurile pe BluRay, dar totusi avind o capacitate asa de mare si numai o joaca pe disc :petrified:

BlackCross
31st January 2008, 00:34
Eu stiu ca PS3 citeste jocurile pe BluRay, dar totusi avind o capacitate asa de mare si numai o joaca pe disc :petrified:
That's life, cope with it.

BlackCross
10th February 2008, 01:12
Microsoft lowers price of HDDVD for Xbox 360

Microsoft has cut the price of its HD DVD high definition video player for the Xbox 360 in an effort to boost sales. The device now lists for $130, down from $260. Sales of HD DVD players have slumped ever since Warner Bros. and several other major Hollywood studios threw their support behind the rival Sony Blu-ray high definition format. DreamWorks, Paramount and Universal are now the only studios with commitments to continue releasing movies in HD DVD. Manufacturers of HD DVD players have been cutting prices in effort to revive demand. Toshiba, for instance, recently reduced the price of its entry level units by 50% to about $150.00 By contrast, Blu-ray players start at about $400.00 or more.

http://media.canada.com/16b6f2ca-3671-421d-b40b-5ee0ea90baea/xbox_hd_dvd_1.jpg

Microsoft’s price cut suggests the company is unlikely to ever introduce a version of the Xbox with an integrated HD DVD player. It was rumored that Microsoft would make such a move at the recent Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, but the reports proved groundless. As for the Xbox itself, sales have cooled following a brief boost from the introduction of the hit video game Halo 3. Microsoft shipped 4.3 million Xbox 360 systems in the three months ended December 31st, compared to 4.4 million systems during the same period in 2006 — a decline of 2.3%. I guess it’s already late because Blu-Ray currently dominates the market, but every price cut is appreciated. And yeah, this is better than Halo 3!

Source: Informationweek

Shing
10th February 2008, 14:06
Nu, doar 1 joc. Defapt PS3 citeste jocuri doar de pe BluRay.

я не совсем вкурил во весь разговор
но
"PS3 citeste jocuri doar de pe BluRay" - PS3 читает и с PS2 и с PS1... (если я правильно понял что там написано что PS3 читает игры тока на BluRay дисках)...
+ стопудово будет как ща на DVD диск для PS2 пираты впихивают по пару игр - так что дело за временем...

BlackCross
10th February 2008, 15:10
I MEANT > PS3 citeste jocuri PENTRU PS3 doar de pe BR.

Shing
10th February 2008, 17:28
I MEANT > PS3 citeste jocuri PENTRU PS3 doar de pe BR.

аа ну это.. - верно)))

BlackCross
17th February 2008, 18:20
Toshiba to give up on HD DVD

Toshiba Corp is planning to stop production of equipment compatible with the HD DVD format for high-definition video, allowing the competing Blu-Ray camp a free run, public broadcaster NHK reported on Saturday.

Toshiba is expected to suffer losses amounting to tens of billions of yen (hundreds of millions of dollars) to scrap production of HD DVD players and recorders and other steps to exit the business, Japan’s NHK said on its website.
No one at Toshiba could be reached for comment.

The format war between the Toshiba-backed HD DVD and Sony Corp’s Blu-Ray, often compared to the Betamax-VHS battle in the 1980s, has slowed the development of what is expected to be a multibillion dollar high-definition DVD industry.
Toshiba was dealt a blow on Friday when Wal-Mart Stores Inc said it would abandon the HD DVD format, becoming the latest in a series of top retailers and movie studios to rally behind Blu-ray technology for high definition DVDs.

Toshiba plans to continue selling HD DVD equipment at stores for the time being but will not put resources into developing new devices, NHK said.

Source: NHK, Reuters


Hmm, seems Sony has won... :crafty:

BlackCross
19th February 2008, 18:35
Toshiba officially quits HD DVD business

http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465/1d/media.canada.com/reuters/olgbbus_iptc/2008-02-16t153545z_01_nootr_rtridsp_2_oukbs-uk-toshiba-hd-dvd.jpg

Toshiba has said it will stop making its high definition DVDs, ending a battle with rival format Blu-ray over which would be the industry standard. Following a review of its business, Toshiba said it would stop production of HD DVD players and recorders. The HD DVD format has suffered as major US film studios backed the Blu-ray format, which is being developed by electronics firm Sony and partners. Analysts said the move would allow Toshiba to focus on other products. “We concluded that a swift decision would be best,” Toshiba president Atsutoshi Nishida said.
Toshiba said the tipping point came last month when Warner Bros’ followed a number of other film studios in deciding to release its movies only in the Blu-ray format. “If we had continued, that would have created problems for consumers, and we simply had no chance to win,” he said. Toshiba will continue to supply retailers with machines until the end of March this year. After that, Toshiba will continue to provide technical support to the estimated one million people worldwide who own HD DVD players and recorders. A number of studios, including Universal, Paramount and DreamWorks, signed up to produce movies in HD DVD, but Toshiba’s withdrawal is expected to reduce the number films available in the format. RIP HD DVD, hail the Blu-Ray, the new king!
Source: BBC

REDDEVIL
19th February 2008, 20:30
Da' Milcasoft ce o sa faca? la Xbob presupun ca o sa ramana HD nu?

BlackCross
19th February 2008, 22:58
Se preconizeaza addon la XBOX360 - Blu Ray in mai.

REDDEVIL
20th February 2008, 00:01
shio iara scot bani din clientzi pentru upgrade =/. Ori PC ori consola e tot aceeashi din cate vad....:(

BlackCross
20th February 2008, 00:12
shio iara scot bani din clientzi pentru upgrade =/. Ori PC ori consola e tot aceeashi din cate vad....:(
Asta e addon absolut nenecesar pentru jocuri, asa ca-l ia doar cui ii tre filme Blu Ray.

REDDEVIL
20th February 2008, 00:13
pai atunci jocurile vor ramane pe DL sau HD?

BlackCross
20th February 2008, 00:15
pai atunci jocurile vor ramane pe DL sau HD?
Jocuri pe HD DVD niciodata nici nu s-au planuit.
Totul va fi pe DL DVD. Period.

BlackCross
20th February 2008, 23:44
Sony selling their Blu-Ray factory to Toshiba

A bit of surprising piece of news appeared today on the internet - the format war between HD DVD and Blu-Ray is officially over and one shop after another gets rid of everything with HD DVD logo on it. One would expect Sony and other companies promoting Blu-Ray format to strengthen their position, but exact opposite happened: Sony Corp said on Wednesday it will sell its microchip production facilities in western Japan to Toshiba Corp for 90 billion yen ($835 million), in their latest move to focus on their core businesses. The equipment will be used by their semiconductor joint venture that will make high-performance Cell chips and RSX graphic chips, both used in Sony’s PlayStation 3 game console, as well as other microchips that go into Toshiba products.

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2008-02/35825865.jpg


The venture will be established on April 1. Sony, which is focusing on image sensor chips for digital cameras and pulling away from heavy investments for cutting-edge chip production equipment, said in October it would sell production facilities for making key microchips used in the PS3 to Toshiba, but the price has been unavailable. It’s also well known that Sony had to pay a lot more money (estimates ranged around $300 / unit) for every PS3 console with Blu-Ray drive, which turned out to be one of the reasons why this format won in the final battle with more than 8 million owners in contrary with only 1.4 million sold HD DVD drives.
Source: AP

BlackCross
25th February 2008, 18:36
Microsoft stops HD DVD production for Xbox 360

Microsoft has decided to stop making the HD DVD add-on for its Xbox 360 games console after Toshiba abandoned the high definition DVD format. Toshiba estimated last week that about 300,000 of the add-ons had been sold. Microsoft was one of the key backers for the HD DVD format, competing with Blu-ray, which was the format available in Sony’s rival PlayStation 3 console. Microsoft said it would continue to provide warranty support for the $130 (Ј115 in the UK) HD DVD add-on.
http://www.our-picks.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/xbox_hd_dvd.jpg

Last week, Toshiba said it would stop production of HD DVD players and recorders after major film studios decided to back Sony’s Blu-ray format instead. Toshiba said the tipping point came last month when Warner Brothers decided to release its movies only in Blu-ray. The Xbox add-ons sold represented 30% of the one million HD DVD devices that were sold worldwide. That compares unfavourably with the 10.5 million PS3s sold by Sony, which come with a built-in Blu-ray drive.
Source: BBC

REDDEVIL
26th February 2008, 00:21
cei care au cumparat sau lins pe bot =/

BlackCross
8th March 2008, 15:28
Microsoft discusses Blu-Ray drive for XboX with Sony

Following its brief campaign to support the doomed HD DVD format, Microsoft has now apparently entered into talks with Sony to bring Blu-ray disc technology to the Xbox 360. That once-unthinkable scenario was outlined today in a report in the British economic daily the Financial Times (http://tinyurl.com/2v6qk2), two months after Xbox group marketing manager Albert Penello reopened the door to the possibility. Citing an unnamed “senior executive,” the Financial Times said that Sony and Microsoft are not simply discussing a successor to the Xbox 360’s now discontinued, dirt-cheap external HD DVD drive. The newspaper said that there is also the possibility of an internal Blu-ray drive being incorporated into a new, more expensive “premium” 360 model, as it is already in the PlayStation 3.

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5833617,00.jpg


Thusly, Sony would earn royalties from sales of a rival console–a first for the game industry. For its part, Microsoft quickly denied any move toward Blu-ray had been officially made. “We have made no such announcement,” a rep told GameSpot. “Games are what are driving consumers to purchase game consoles, and we remain focused on providing the largest library of blockbuster games available.” For its part, Sony welcomes the possibility of a Blu-ray-equipped Xbox 360. “If Microsoft wants to release Gears of War 3 on a Blu-ray Disc, I think we can make that happen,” Sony Computer Entertainment America’s vice president of product marketing Scott A. Steinberg said.
Source: Gamespot

BlackCross
10th March 2008, 20:03
New high def DVD format: HD VMD

No sooner has the battle for the next-generation high definition DVD format ended, with Blu-ray triumphing over HD DVD, than a new contender has emerged. A new system that is incompatible with Blu-ray, called HD VMD, for versatile multilayer disc, is trying to find a niche. New Medium Enterprises, the London company behind HD VMD, says its system’s quality is equal to Blu-ray’s but it costs less. By undercutting the competition in production, replication and hardware costs, it thinks it can find a market among consumers with less disposable income, particularly outside the United States. An HD VMD player costs less than a Blu-ray because it uses the red-laser technologies found in today’s standard-definition DVD players. The Blu-ray and HD DVD machines use a more-expensive blue laser system. “We do not intend to take on Blu-ray,” said Shirly Levich, New Medium’s vice president and product development manager, in an e-mail message.
http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/nme_hd_vmd1.jpg

“We see VMD as a natural extension of mass market DVD product enhanced to HD capabilities. We shall not rekindle the format war.” The industry and consumers may not see it that way, given that the company is promoting its price advantages. While Blu-ray players typically cost more than $300, an HD VMD unit is priced at $199. Sales through Amazon are scheduled to begin in five weeks, the company said. Neither Walt Disney, Universal Studios nor Warner Brothers would comment on their interest in releasing movies on HD VMD. But even without major studio movies, Mr. Solomon thinks the company will be successful. The low cost of producing HD VMD master discs, from which the consumer products are made, and the inexpensive consumer players have attracted the owners of movie rights in China, India and Spain already.
Source: NY Times

BlackCross
19th March 2008, 00:37
Blu-Ray prices significantly increase, no competition

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/thexboxdomain/blu-ray-logo-400.jpg

Blu-ray Disc players from Samsung, Sony and Sharp are now the most expensive they have been all year, presumably because HD DVD’s exit from the high-def disc arena has removed some of Blu-ray’s pricing pressure. Although HD DVD was always seen as a distant second in the HD format war, it constantly received attention because of the lower cost of its players. Because of this, standalone Blu-ray players were not moving off store shelves very steadily. The majority of Blu-ray Disc movie purchases have to date been for consumers who own a Playstation 3, which has BD playback capabilities.
In a move to expedite HD DVD’s downfall, Blu-ray manufacturers and retailers aggressively cut prices earlier this year, to the point where it was possible to buy a standalone BD player for less than $300. Now, however, according to Pricegrabber.com’s most recent information, the average price for Blu-ray hardware is around $400, which is right around where it was last year. The players from Samsung, Sony, Sharp and Panasonic included here are the least expensive on the market and also the most widely available. LG’s BH200 is a dual format player with support for Blu-ray and HD DVD.

http://i31.tinypic.com/2zxm2wx.jpg

Within just the last two weeks, te average prices for LG’s BH200 player and Sharp’s BD-HP20U have climbed significantly. Every standlone Blu-ray-specific player in the chart above is now more expensive than it was at the beginning of the year. Ironically, although Blu-ray has been declared the winner, it is right now about the worst time to invest in a standalone Blu-ray player.
Source: Tom’s hardware


BlackCross: Sad...

adrian1369
19th March 2008, 17:14
Not really if you have PS3 XD

BlackCross
19th March 2008, 21:45
Not really if you have PS3 XD
PS3 is cheap!? O.o